Hi Ken, sorry to be so flakey but I may be doing the Upper tomorrow depending on my elbow and water levels. The usual loop suspects are most likely doing the upper tomorrow as well or have paddled today with it being the RDCP end of season paddlers party. This is why not many have replied to this post. I will post on here at about 7:15 in the morning to let you know. I am sorry I can’t be more specific but it does depend on my elbow as I tweaked it today. Thanks, Mark.